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Mcleish Has Saved Our Club; with the players he brought
Topic Started: Jun 29 2011, 06:53 PM (1,244 Views)
bluenose69
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If it was not for the business he done in the transfer market we would be in serious trouble. I dont know what to think about our chairman getting arrested & our chief executive giving embarassing statements. They will learn........i hope. The reason why we should be so grateful for having Mcleish in charge of our club look at what he has left us with. A goal keeper we would be unhappy at selling for £9 million, a midfielder making 100% profit on, Dann worth £12 mill, Johnson, £10, Jerome £7, Ridgwell £5, i could go on. That will get us out the muck i think considering we have halved our wage bill from £44 million to £22 & if im correct we was £27 million in debt & would of needed £3 million investement to of stayed up. The gap of income within the divisions has almost been done with the players that has left so how i see it once Gardner has gone we will if anything be in a healthier position than we expected then with the players we have been that valuable. My mates who are Albion fans even admitted that they could tell how good our squad it because everyone is after our players in comparison to West Ham. They said they only have about 4 sellable players where we have about 8 and thats not really including Mcfadden who may still stay.
Its horrible comparing our last few windows we have brought big names like Hleb, Martins & Bentley but in Burke & King for this standard they are up there. Ask any Cardiff fan about Burke and he was one of their best players for a team that has just finished 3rd.

Mcleish has built our club up so high without us realising it that signing these players does not mean much to us. Even Rooney who has just signed is still more than decent for this division & will work hard.

I dont know what to say about our board, by selling our star players shows their lack of knowledge in the English game however. Jerome no matter what anyone says is easily worth £7 million+. If West Ham can reject bids of £12 for Carlton Cole we should hold out for £20 (joking of course).

Only at blues could all this happen ;)
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blueblood
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You do realise that relegation is financially crippling. Who got us relegated?

What nonsense.

Comined fee of £22 for Ridge, Jerome and Johnson? We aren't that broke are we? :whistle:
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andyjjj
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When we went down before we got £7m for Pennant etc etc

Didn't we also get a fair bit of money for Jose Dominguez a few years back? Anyway the point is we've always sold players for good money especially after being relegated from the premiership, so it's not McLeish, it's just standard.
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Spending one of the most amounts of money in the Prem then getting relegated which causes all sorts of financial problems. Yeah greats job McLiesh
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tiltontrev
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You might find Brucie signed Jerome....:unsure:



If McLeish could have found a grain of inspiration we'd be nowhere near the financial trouble we now find ourselves in, you might say he was a leading factor in our demise.
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trublupunk
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tiltontrev
Jun 29 2011, 07:04 PM
You might find Brucie signed Jerome....:unsure:



and Ridgewell.
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tiltontrev
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All hail Steve Bruce, The Saviour of Birmingham City FC.


I said it then and i say it now, we should never have forced him out.

Now for a shameless plug of my old video


The Saviour
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bluenose69
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I was going off the subject regarding Jerome being signed by Mcleish. Thats rubbish that we have had a squad of players worth this much money before. We always sell maybe 2/3 & bring in £10-15 tops, well we have just rejected £16 for 2 players that we would make a £10 million profit on.
This is nothing to do with his managment or style as i think we will all agree were happy his style has gone. But in fairness to Mcleish he has left behind a much more talented squad with value than Bruce. Bruce always feels like he has money to burn in every window.
We can fall back on the sales of our players if push comes to shove. Not that i would expect that if we even have half an expectation of coming back up. As far as im concerned if we lose Foster & either of Johnson or Dann we may just about make the play offs & have to be lucky to get through.

I cant beleive some of you who fair enough didnt rate Mcleish's style of football cant give him credit with the team we have and improvements in the training ground which he pushed & not Bruce.
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I sure hope McScrotum does as good a job in 'saving' the Vile.
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.Jake
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curlyminogue
Jun 29 2011, 07:18 PM
I sure hope McScrotom does as good a job in 'saving' the Vile.

I hope he does to them, what he did to us.
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bluenose69
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Win a cup? We have been relegated before, more than any other club in fact. Its not the worst thing that has happened to this club being relegated but winning that cup is the best by far- FACT!
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bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:21 PM
Win a cup? We have been relegated before, more than any other club in fact. Its not the worst thing that has happened to this club being relegated but winning that cup is the best by far- FACT!

It could be argued that this relegation, in this climate is the worse thing to happen to us. We will find out in due course.
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bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:21 PM
Win a cup? We have been relegated before, more than any other club in fact. Its not the worst thing that has happened to this club being relegated but winning that cup is the best by far- FACT!

The cup means more to the fans but surviving the premier league would have meant a whole lot more to the club with all the financial difficulties and such like.
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Jakeee
Jun 29 2011, 07:19 PM
curlyminogue
Jun 29 2011, 07:18 PM
I sure hope McScrotom does as good a job in 'saving' the Vile.

I hope he does to them, what he did to us.

Except they lose in the final :LOL:
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bluenose69
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The fact that not one of you can even admit or see that mcleish has raised the bar for this club & the fact we are gutted we never got £9 million for a player we signed for £3 sums this forum up. I see a lot of sensible posts on here but their are so many users that have their own agenda regarding the club.
We have won a cup, finished 9th in the premier league, got into the uefa cup & got players worth £9 million, £10 million & £12 million. No other manager has gave us that & even though i want him to choke on his claret & blue tie i will give him the credit for giving us all those things. Playing boring football we sufffered under Bruce & relegation now is almsot identical to when Bruce got us but we have players worth a lot more. Its just back then our board had the money to help out where nowadays we have a chairman who is sharing a toilet with atleast 10 people as we speak.
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bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:39 PM
The fact that not one of you can even admit or see that mcleish has raised the bar for this club & the fact we are gutted we never got £9 million for a player we signed for £3 sums this forum up. I see a lot of sensible posts on here but their are so many users that have their own agenda regarding the club.
We have won a cup, finished 9th in the premier league, got into the uefa cup & got players worth £9 million, £10 million & £12 million. No other manager has gave us that & even though i want him to choke on his claret & blue tie i will give him the credit for giving us all those things. Playing boring football we sufffered under Bruce & relegation now is almsot identical to when Bruce got us but we have players worth a lot more. Its just back then our board had the money to help out where nowadays we have a chairman who is sharing a toilet with atleast 10 people as we speak.

Yes he brought great players in but he got us relegated because he couldn't use his players appropriately, that is a reason why he is a rubbish manager, and if he saved our club why are we in the position we are? He has far from saved it.
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bluenose69
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There are many reasons why we got relegated & its harsh just blaming Mcleish as i dont think many clubs would of coped with his injuries. In saying that he was the manager & i never used to go to my seat until the last half hour as i know we wouldnt score. He has gone, but what im am saying is with the players he brought & the lack of money our board have , he has saved the club. We could if we want too sell 7 players & make over £50 million, for a club like us that is amazing. Swansea could not dream of that right now with their whole squad.
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bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:48 PM
There are many reasons why we got relegated & its harsh just blaming Mcleish as i dont think many clubs would of coped with his injuries. In saying that he was the manager & i never used to go to my seat until the last half hour as i know we wouldnt score. He has gone, but what im am saying is with the players he brought & the lack of money our board have , he has saved the club. We could if we want too sell 7 players & make over £50 million, for a club like us that is amazing. Swansea could not dream of that right now with their whole squad.

The profit made on players will be nothing compared to the losses of going down.
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bluenose69
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Jun 29 2011, 07:53 PM
bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:48 PM
There are many reasons why we got relegated & its harsh just blaming Mcleish as i dont think many clubs would of coped with his injuries. In saying that he was the manager & i never used to go to my seat until the last half hour as i know we wouldnt score. He has gone, but what im am saying is with the players he brought & the lack of money our board have , he has saved the club. We could if we want too sell 7 players & make over �50 million, for a club like us that is amazing. Swansea could not dream of that right now with their whole squad.

The profit made on players will be nothing compared to the losses of going down.

The losses are £24 million less for tv aswell & £10-£15 for others. Our wage bill is £22 million less, were selling Gardner for £6 so with only needing to sell one more i would not say its huge. If we stayed up we would of needed £3 million pumped in if we wa to of finished 9th again so technically would of needed £9 so would of had to sell someone anyway, then Mcleish would not of gone Villa as they would not of took advantage.
Would you of prefered that scenario?
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Des
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No one on this board was a greater fan of Mcleish than me, but the way he left us was so lamentable and underhand that no one will even acknowledge his strong points.
He actually desecrated his own memory! The carling cup win was his greatest moment tactically he out thought Mr Wenger and his players played out their roles to perfection.
However you would be better off saying `Hitler wasnt as bad as people make out.
Alex has made himself a hate figure to Blues till the end of time.

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fozzylou
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I thought McPondlife claimed the owners interfeared with transfers or are we to believe all the successful ones were his & the failures the boards!!

Hmmmm!
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blueblood
Jun 29 2011, 07:56 PM
You do realise that relegation is financially crippling. Who got us relegated?

What nonsense.

Comined fee of £22 for Ridge, Jerome and Johnson? We aren't that broke are we? :whistle:

spot on.

What utter rubbish from bluenose69. It is McLeish that has ruined our club with his inept philosophy have how to play the Premier League in the 21st Century. Two relegation and the last one costing us so, so much.

Yes the Board are guilty of an ultra-risky business plan dependent on Premier League status for commercial riches in China ---but McLeish has relegated us. He is the reason we cannot fulfil the business plan.

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bluenose69
Jun 29 2011, 07:53 PM
If it was not for the business he done in the transfer market we would be in serious trouble. I dont know what to think about our chairman getting arrested & our chief executive giving embarassing statements. They will learn........i hope. The reason why we should be so grateful for having Mcleish in charge of our club look at what he has left us with. A goal keeper we would be unhappy at selling for £9 million, a midfielder making 100% profit on, Dann worth £12 mill, Johnson, £10, Jerome £7, Ridgwell £5, i could go on. That will get us out the muck i think considering we have halved our wage bill from £44 million to £22 & if im correct we was £27 million in debt & would of needed £3 million investement to of stayed up. The gap of income within the divisions has almost been done with the players that has left so how i see it once Gardner has gone we will if anything be in a healthier position than we expected then with the players we have been that valuable. My mates who are Albion fans even admitted that they could tell how good our squad it because everyone is after our players in comparison to West Ham. They said they only have about 4 sellable players where we have about 8 and thats not really including Mcfadden who may still stay.
Its horrible comparing our last few windows we have brought big names like Hleb, Martins & Bentley but in Burke & King for this standard they are up there. Ask any Cardiff fan about Burke and he was one of their best players for a team that has just finished 3rd.

Mcleish has built our club up so high without us realising it that signing these players does not mean much to us. Even Rooney who has just signed is still more than decent for this division & will work hard.

I dont know what to say about our board, by selling our star players shows their lack of knowledge in the English game however. Jerome no matter what anyone says is easily worth £7 million+. If West Ham can reject bids of £12 for Carlton Cole we should hold out for £20 (joking of course).

Only at blues could all this happen ;)

Hello Jon.

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have to admit Mcleish was better than most managers in spotting a bargain, he bought some duffs as all managers do but look at the players going for big profit now and in the future weeks.
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This post supposes that if we had got Hodgson (or any other manager at the time) we would have still gone down the first and second time and that manager would have bought rubbish. Bit hard to imagine.
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